Can I transport a horse and trailer on a code 10 licence?

Question:

I would like to know if one can transport a horse and trailer on a code 10 licence as this is a bit of a grey area for me and the traffic department told me that it is legal. I have a code B licence and a code 10 learners but want to do my licence soon for code 10.

Answer:

A ‘code 10’ will be fine given that the driving licence code that you will be applying for will be that of an articulated nature meaning EB, EC or EC1.

Additional information:

• EB is an articulated motor vehicle of which the gross combination mass does not exceed 3500 kilograms.


• EC1 is an articulated motor vehicle of which the gross combination mass exceeds 3500 kilograms but does not exceed 16000 kilograms .


• EC is an articulated motor vehicle of which the gross combination mass which exceeds 16000 kilograms.

*and articulated vehicle is a vehicle which has a permanent or semi-permanent pivoting join. In a broader sense, any vehicle towing a trailer.

* GCM is the maximum combined mass of the towing vehicle its passengers and cargo plus the mass of the trailer and the cargo in the trailer.

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Regards,

Celacia Kara-Vala

Tasima

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Can I transport a horse and trailer on a code 10 licence?

Finish of the counterpart driving licence – how will you be impacted?

As of Monday June 8, 2015, the paper part of your driving licence (the ‘counterpart’) will no longer be valid, and DVLA will no longer situation any paper licences.

The move comes hot on the heels of DVLA abolishing the paper tax disc.

It is all part of DVLA’s drive to digitise motorists’ records and simplify the services it gives, which in turn is component of the government’s Red Tape Challenge streamlining initiative.

What’s the objective of the counterpart?

The counterpart licence is employed to record any endorsements (penalty points) and is often employed by employers and vehicle employ firms to confirm a person’s driving record.

Driving convictions and endorsements will nonetheless be recorded by the police, but they will be stored electronically and officers are now capable to access info at the roadside by way of the Police National Laptop.

How will the abolition of the counterpart licence impact me?

If you hold a photocard driving licence, the paper counterpart will no longer be valid as of June 8 this year. DVLA is advising drivers to destroy their counterpart soon after this date.

If you have lost your photocard licence and only have the paper counterpart, you should get a new photocard licence quickly as your counterpart will no longer be valid from June 7

To find out how to replace a lost, stolen, damaged or destroyed driving licence, pay a visit to GOV.UK.

What if I do not have a photocard licence?

If you do not have a photocard licence and only hold a paper driving licence that was issued before the photocard was introduced in 1998, this will stay valid and must not be destroyed.

The next time you update your name, address or renew your licence, you will be issued with a photocard licence and you must then destroy your paper licence.

In contrast to photocard licences, which need to be renewed each and every 10 years, paper driving licences do not need to be renewed unless there is a adjust of specifics.

Will my entitlement or penalty points be impacted?

There will be no modify to either the status of your driving licence. Any convictions and penalty points will remain on your driving record until they are spent.

So how can I verify my driver record?

DVLA has launched a View Your Driving Licence service which enables you to view your driving record on the internet, including the sorts of automobile you can drive and any endorsements (penalty points) you may have.

For much more data, verify out Jess Bown’s post Check your driving licence on the internet.

What if I want to employ a automobile? Or I apply for a job as a driver?

DVLA is presently developing new digital enquiry services that will be launched later this year to permit businesses, such as vehicle hire businesses and employers, to view data that is presently shown on the counterpart.

The information will only be shared with organizations who have a right to see it and you will be informed prior to any checks are carried out – so no-a single can verify up on your driving record without you understanding about it.

Finish of the counterpart driving licence – how will you be impacted?

What are the Requirements for a driving licence holder to accompany a learner driver?

Question:

I would like to know if one has a learner drivers license, can he be assisted by a person with a drivers license less that a year? In other words, how long do you have to have your license before you can assist a person with a learner drivers license?
Answer:

The current regulations do not specify how long the driver must have held a driving licence before being allowed to supervise a person holding a learner’;s licence. There is a requirement that the driving licence must be valid and for the same class of vehicle being driven by the learner driver. See the regulation below.

Regulation 99
(2) (a) The holder of a learner’s licence shall, except where such licence relates to a motor vehicle having no seating accommodation for a passenger or to a motor cycle, when driving the vehicle concerned, be accompanied in or on that vehicle by, and be under the direct personal supervision of a person seated next to him or her, or immediately behind him or her, where such person cannot be seated next to him or her, and who is in possession of a licence, other than a learner’s or similar licence, authorising him or her to drive that class of motor vehicle.

Gavin Hoole
Learner’;s Licence & K53
Driving Licence Test Info
www.K53.GavinHoole.ws

What are the Requirements for a driving licence holder to accompany a learner driver?

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

We often discuss the impact of crime on road safety and the need to root out any form of corruption! On the Arrive Alive website we have also discussed this in more detail on a page titled “Corruption, Traffic Enforcement and Road Safety”. Car insurance companies will agree that incompetent drivers  - or let us say those who should not be driving but who are licensed drivers after having “bought” their licences are also adding to road crashes and car insurance claims! We encourage strict processes and effective testing before a driving licence is awarded – but this process should be fair! With our high unemployment rate in South Africa it becomes ever more important for job seekers to have a driving licence. What will be the effect if the driving licence test is not fair and where it becomes nearly impossible for the average guy or girl to pass the test? This will only encourage corruption as more young drivers will seek illegal alternatives to get a driving licence! This is best illustrated with a question emailed to the Arrive Alive website Question: “Good day I am not sure where I should go in terms of complaints. I was advised to go to the Southern African institute of driving instructors.  I have recently wrote my learners twice and have failed. I wrote at Randburg licensing department in July and after test I found out that illegal questions that does not comply to the syllabus was in it. One of the questions were what is an exhaust silencer? I failed by one point and feel that it was extremely unfair.   I feel that they deliberately made me fail.I hear that this has been going on for quite some time,why doesn’;t anyone care? and the department of transport denies such questions in test! Please may you advise me. kind regards” Answer: We referred this to Pat Allen from the South African Institute of Driving Instructors and would like to share her response: Thank you for this referral with respect to question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence.

• Firstly, let me state emphatically that lawlessness on our roads is at an all-time high in the country. We agree that the public should know and apply the law thoroughly.


• We are constantly receiving similar complaints (see below) about the computerised learners licence tests. We so hoped the computerised tests would stamp out corruption and give learner drivers a fair knowledge test as experienced in first world countries, but unfortunately, that is not happening, especially in Gauteng.


• Despite forwarding complaints regularly to the National Department of Transport, Gauteng Provincial Department of Transport and the RTMC, since the inception of the Gauteng Computerised tests, the protestations and cries of the public who are failing repeatedly due to questions outside the prescribed syllabus are being ignored.


• Several authorities have been positively defensive, claiming the public are so used to passing easily without knowing the whole law, (which is actually quite true), yet no effort to remove the troublesome questions from the tests has been made. Apparently those responsible have not taken the trouble to actually read the prescribed syllabus.


• It seems impossible to sort this matter out. The authorities are ignoring all requests for intervention.


• One would imagine that the authorities would be appreciative of the law-abiding citizens, who do not consider buying licences, but try to do things legally, yet the public are hampered in their efforts by failing their learners licences over and over again, despite knowing their work very well. Many people use this as an excuse to buy licences and to driving illegally, which is not an acceptable option.


• Then, once they have eventually (hopefully) acquired a legal learner’s licence (with a more appropriate random selection of questions), and after a considerable delay and a lot more money than necessary has left their wallets, the struggle to find a test date sooner than 3 months ahead begins, in the hope that they will be ready to do their tests then, or risk forfeiting the moneys paid and re-booking months ahead, if not. Then the battle to find a legal driving instructor who has a high standard of integrity and training, and then to find a Driving Licence Testing Centre where tests are conducted according to the prescribed K53 test standard is a reality, and not a farce, begins.


• No. It is definitely not a straightforward process to acquire a legal driving licence in South Africa. At SAIDI have even experienced a member who has been compelled (by being attacked with assegais, spears and sticks with a young woman in the vehicle who was about to do a driving licence test), to join another Association, (Mpumalanga Driving School Association at a cost of R10 000.00), thereby contravening our Constitution AND BEING REQUIRED TO IGNORE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COUNTRY WHERE FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION IS ENSHRINED WITHIN THE BILL OF RIGHTS, in order to be permitted to take his clients to a test centre in Mpumalanga, where he can get appointments within a week. He is so determined to continue this practise in order to survive financially, that he will risk being asked to step down as a SAIDI member. Being a breadwinner with 4 children to support, he can do nothing else.

Now I understand what is wrong with South Africa – no-one listens until people march in the streets breaking public property, (even school children now!), because those appointed to take responsibility for these matters simply ignore the public. This is not democracy working effectively. Speaking as a driving instructor with 35 years of experience, seen from my angle, road safety in South Africa is a hollow sham, despite billions being spent on numerous and ongoing expensive conferences, indabas and Summit meetings. So much for the Decade of Action. Unless the authorities start investigating these constant complaints, what hope is there of effective changes and fair learners licence tests? On behalf of SAIDI, we wish the complainant a test which is focussed on the prescribed syllabus next time. That is as good as it gets at the moment. If things change for the better, we will be the first to celebrate it with great enthusiasm. Let’s hope that someone will decide to correct the problems this time. If so, we applaud them.   Best regards,   P.A. Allen
  We would like to confirm that we will from our side strive to bring this to the attention of the decision makers at the highest level! Our road users deserve to share the roads with competent and licenced drivers  - and we need to address and remove any measures that promotes corruption in the road traffic environment! Also view: Crime as a Threat to Road Safety

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

We often discuss the impact of crime on road safety and the need to root out any form of corruption! On the Arrive Alive website we have also discussed this in more detail on a page titled “Corruption, Traffic Enforcement and Road Safety”. Car insurance companies will agree that incompetent drivers  - or let us say those who should not be driving but who are licensed drivers after having “bought” their licences are also adding to road crashes and car insurance claims! We encourage strict processes and effective testing before a driving licence is awarded – but this process should be fair! With our high unemployment rate in South Africa it becomes ever more important for job seekers to have a driving licence. What will be the effect if the driving licence test is not fair and where it becomes nearly impossible for the average guy or girl to pass the test? This will only encourage corruption as more young drivers will seek illegal alternatives to get a driving licence! This is best illustrated with a question emailed to the Arrive Alive website Question: “Good day I am not sure where I should go in terms of complaints. I was advised to go to the Southern African institute of driving instructors.  I have recently wrote my learners twice and have failed. I wrote at Randburg licensing department in July and after test I found out that illegal questions that does not comply to the syllabus was in it. One of the questions were what is an exhaust silencer? I failed by one point and feel that it was extremely unfair.   I feel that they deliberately made me fail.I hear that this has been going on for quite some time,why doesn’;t anyone care? and the department of transport denies such questions in test! Please may you advise me. kind regards” Answer: We referred this to Pat Allen from the South African Institute of Driving Instructors and would like to share her response: Thank you for this referral with respect to question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence.

• Firstly, let me state emphatically that lawlessness on our roads is at an all-time high in the country. We agree that the public should know and apply the law thoroughly.


• We are constantly receiving similar complaints (see below) about the computerised learners licence tests. We so hoped the computerised tests would stamp out corruption and give learner drivers a fair knowledge test as experienced in first world countries, but unfortunately, that is not happening, especially in Gauteng.


• Despite forwarding complaints regularly to the National Department of Transport, Gauteng Provincial Department of Transport and the RTMC, since the inception of the Gauteng Computerised tests, the protestations and cries of the public who are failing repeatedly due to questions outside the prescribed syllabus are being ignored.


• Several authorities have been positively defensive, claiming the public are so used to passing easily without knowing the whole law, (which is actually quite true), yet no effort to remove the troublesome questions from the tests has been made. Apparently those responsible have not taken the trouble to actually read the prescribed syllabus.


• It seems impossible to sort this matter out. The authorities are ignoring all requests for intervention.


• One would imagine that the authorities would be appreciative of the law-abiding citizens, who do not consider buying licences, but try to do things legally, yet the public are hampered in their efforts by failing their learners licences over and over again, despite knowing their work very well. Many people use this as an excuse to buy licences and to driving illegally, which is not an acceptable option.


• Then, once they have eventually (hopefully) acquired a legal learner’s licence (with a more appropriate random selection of questions), and after a considerable delay and a lot more money than necessary has left their wallets, the struggle to find a test date sooner than 3 months ahead begins, in the hope that they will be ready to do their tests then, or risk forfeiting the moneys paid and re-booking months ahead, if not. Then the battle to find a legal driving instructor who has a high standard of integrity and training, and then to find a Driving Licence Testing Centre where tests are conducted according to the prescribed K53 test standard is a reality, and not a farce, begins.


• No. It is definitely not a straightforward process to acquire a legal driving licence in South Africa. At SAIDI have even experienced a member who has been compelled (by being attacked with assegais, spears and sticks with a young woman in the vehicle who was about to do a driving licence test), to join another Association, (Mpumalanga Driving School Association at a cost of R10 000.00), thereby contravening our Constitution AND BEING REQUIRED TO IGNORE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COUNTRY WHERE FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION IS ENSHRINED WITHIN THE BILL OF RIGHTS, in order to be permitted to take his clients to a test centre in Mpumalanga, where he can get appointments within a week. He is so determined to continue this practise in order to survive financially, that he will risk being asked to step down as a SAIDI member. Being a breadwinner with 4 children to support, he can do nothing else.

Now I understand what is wrong with South Africa – no-one listens until people march in the streets breaking public property, (even school children now!), because those appointed to take responsibility for these matters simply ignore the public. This is not democracy working effectively. Speaking as a driving instructor with 35 years of experience, seen from my angle, road safety in South Africa is a hollow sham, despite billions being spent on numerous and ongoing expensive conferences, indabas and Summit meetings. So much for the Decade of Action. Unless the authorities start investigating these constant complaints, what hope is there of effective changes and fair learners licence tests? On behalf of SAIDI, we wish the complainant a test which is focussed on the prescribed syllabus next time. That is as good as it gets at the moment. If things change for the better, we will be the first to celebrate it with great enthusiasm. Let’s hope that someone will decide to correct the problems this time. If so, we applaud them.   Best regards,   P.A. Allen
  We would like to confirm that we will from our side strive to bring this to the attention of the decision makers at the highest level! Our road users deserve to share the roads with competent and licenced drivers  - and we need to address and remove any measures that promotes corruption in the road traffic environment! Also view: Crime as a Threat to Road Safety

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

We often discuss the impact of crime on road safety and the need to root out any form of corruption! On the Arrive Alive website we have also discussed this in more detail on a page titled “Corruption, Traffic Enforcement and Road Safety”. Car insurance companies will agree that incompetent drivers  - or let us say those who should not be driving but who are licensed drivers after having “bought” their licences are also adding to road crashes and car insurance claims! We encourage strict processes and effective testing before a driving licence is awarded – but this process should be fair! With our high unemployment rate in South Africa it becomes ever more important for job seekers to have a driving licence. What will be the effect if the driving licence test is not fair and where it becomes nearly impossible for the average guy or girl to pass the test? This will only encourage corruption as more young drivers will seek illegal alternatives to get a driving licence! This is best illustrated with a question emailed to the Arrive Alive website Question: “Good day I am not sure where I should go in terms of complaints. I was advised to go to the Southern African institute of driving instructors.  I have recently wrote my learners twice and have failed. I wrote at Randburg licensing department in July and after test I found out that illegal questions that does not comply to the syllabus was in it. One of the questions were what is an exhaust silencer? I failed by one point and feel that it was extremely unfair.   I feel that they deliberately made me fail.I hear that this has been going on for quite some time,why doesn’;t anyone care? and the department of transport denies such questions in test! Please may you advise me. kind regards” Answer: We referred this to Pat Allen from the South African Institute of Driving Instructors and would like to share her response: Thank you for this referral with respect to question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence.

• Firstly, let me state emphatically that lawlessness on our roads is at an all-time high in the country. We agree that the public should know and apply the law thoroughly.


• We are constantly receiving similar complaints (see below) about the computerised learners licence tests. We so hoped the computerised tests would stamp out corruption and give learner drivers a fair knowledge test as experienced in first world countries, but unfortunately, that is not happening, especially in Gauteng.


• Despite forwarding complaints regularly to the National Department of Transport, Gauteng Provincial Department of Transport and the RTMC, since the inception of the Gauteng Computerised tests, the protestations and cries of the public who are failing repeatedly due to questions outside the prescribed syllabus are being ignored.


• Several authorities have been positively defensive, claiming the public are so used to passing easily without knowing the whole law, (which is actually quite true), yet no effort to remove the troublesome questions from the tests has been made. Apparently those responsible have not taken the trouble to actually read the prescribed syllabus.


• It seems impossible to sort this matter out. The authorities are ignoring all requests for intervention.


• One would imagine that the authorities would be appreciative of the law-abiding citizens, who do not consider buying licences, but try to do things legally, yet the public are hampered in their efforts by failing their learners licences over and over again, despite knowing their work very well. Many people use this as an excuse to buy licences and to driving illegally, which is not an acceptable option.


• Then, once they have eventually (hopefully) acquired a legal learner’s licence (with a more appropriate random selection of questions), and after a considerable delay and a lot more money than necessary has left their wallets, the struggle to find a test date sooner than 3 months ahead begins, in the hope that they will be ready to do their tests then, or risk forfeiting the moneys paid and re-booking months ahead, if not. Then the battle to find a legal driving instructor who has a high standard of integrity and training, and then to find a Driving Licence Testing Centre where tests are conducted according to the prescribed K53 test standard is a reality, and not a farce, begins.


• No. It is definitely not a straightforward process to acquire a legal driving licence in South Africa. At SAIDI have even experienced a member who has been compelled (by being attacked with assegais, spears and sticks with a young woman in the vehicle who was about to do a driving licence test), to join another Association, (Mpumalanga Driving School Association at a cost of R10 000.00), thereby contravening our Constitution AND BEING REQUIRED TO IGNORE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE COUNTRY WHERE FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION IS ENSHRINED WITHIN THE BILL OF RIGHTS, in order to be permitted to take his clients to a test centre in Mpumalanga, where he can get appointments within a week. He is so determined to continue this practise in order to survive financially, that he will risk being asked to step down as a SAIDI member. Being a breadwinner with 4 children to support, he can do nothing else.

Now I understand what is wrong with South Africa – no-one listens until people march in the streets breaking public property, (even school children now!), because those appointed to take responsibility for these matters simply ignore the public. This is not democracy working effectively. Speaking as a driving instructor with 35 years of experience, seen from my angle, road safety in South Africa is a hollow sham, despite billions being spent on numerous and ongoing expensive conferences, indabas and Summit meetings. So much for the Decade of Action. Unless the authorities start investigating these constant complaints, what hope is there of effective changes and fair learners licence tests? On behalf of SAIDI, we wish the complainant a test which is focussed on the prescribed syllabus next time. That is as good as it gets at the moment. If things change for the better, we will be the first to celebrate it with great enthusiasm. Let’s hope that someone will decide to correct the problems this time. If so, we applaud them.   Best regards,   P.A. Allen
  We would like to confirm that we will from our side strive to bring this to the attention of the decision makers at the highest level! Our road users deserve to share the roads with competent and licenced drivers  - and we need to address and remove any measures that promotes corruption in the road traffic environment! Also view: Crime as a Threat to Road Safety

Question/s outside of the prescribed syllabus for the learners licence will only further corruption!

Driving licence costs set to fall this autumn

Driving licence fees will fall by up to a third (32%) as part of government plans to assist cut the price of motoring and save drivers about £18 million a year.

Excellent news for young drivers

The plans are contained in a public consultation on driver licensing costs that will see the expense of a initial time postal application for a licence drop from £50 to £43, whilst on the internet applications will be reduce even additional to just £34 – which will come as a welcome respite for young drivers who feel they are acquiring priced out of motoring.

Cost of renewals to be reduce

It’s not just young drivers who’ll feel the benefit if the proposals are provided the go ahead as the expense of licence renewals are set to fall from £20 to £14 for online applications, or to £17 if you apply by post.

For an additional £4.50 the Post Office will take a digital photo and signature from you at the counter and then approach your application. Far more information on that service can be discovered right here.

And it is worth remembering you need to have to renew your driving licence each 10 years – and if adjust your name or address. If you are caught with an out-of-date licence or the particulars on it are incorrect, you could locate oneself on the getting end of a £1,000 fine.

DVLA’s digital drive

The consultation is due to close on August 25, 2014. If the proposals are authorized, the government hopes to have the new fees introduced by the end of October this year.

The truth on the internet applications will see a higher reduction than postal applications is further proof of DVLA moving towards a completely digital service, following the announcement that car excise duty (VED or ‘road tax’ to most) is to go digital from October 1, 2014.

Kevin Pratt, insurance professional at MoneySuperMarket stated: “The price of owning a vehicle can be important, specifically for young drivers, but if these proposals are provided the green light then it will go some way to easing the economic burden on motorists.”

Driving licence costs set to fall this autumn

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

Question:

Hi I have a code 10 learners,can I drive a code 8 vehicle? Can I pass out for my licence with a car?
Answer:

Code 10 is an obsolete code reference, although I am told that the traffic departments are still using that term when they talk to candidates. The valid code references are shown on the back of one’;s driving licence.

For all the vehicle codes see this Web page:
http://k53.gavinhoole.ws/licence-codes-vehicle-codes/

Note, if you need to apply for a Driving Licence for a different code, you need to do both the Learner’;s Licence test and the Driving Licence test for that code. The Web page above shows each vehicle code and which other vehicles (codes) may be driven with that same licence. To pass a test for a particular code, one must do the driving test using a vehicle of that same code.

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

Question:

Hi I have a code 10 learners,can I drive a code 8 vehicle? Can I pass out for my licence with a car?
Answer:

Code 10 is an obsolete code reference, although I am told that the traffic departments are still using that term when they talk to candidates. The valid code references are shown on the back of one’;s driving licence.

For all the vehicle codes see this Web page:
http://k53.gavinhoole.ws/licence-codes-vehicle-codes/

Note, if you need to apply for a Driving Licence for a different code, you need to do both the Learner’;s Licence test and the Driving Licence test for that code. The Web page above shows each vehicle code and which other vehicles (codes) may be driven with that same licence. To pass a test for a particular code, one must do the driving test using a vehicle of that same code.

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

Question:

Hi I have a code 10 learners,can I drive a code 8 vehicle? Can I pass out for my licence with a car?
Answer:

Code 10 is an obsolete code reference, although I am told that the traffic departments are still using that term when they talk to candidates. The valid code references are shown on the back of one’;s driving licence.

For all the vehicle codes see this Web page:
http://k53.gavinhoole.ws/licence-codes-vehicle-codes/

Note, if you need to apply for a Driving Licence for a different code, you need to do both the Learner’;s Licence test and the Driving Licence test for that code. The Web page above shows each vehicle code and which other vehicles (codes) may be driven with that same licence. To pass a test for a particular code, one must do the driving test using a vehicle of that same code.

What are the correct driving licence codes and what am I then allowed to drive in SA?

How has the licence codes for motorbikes changed over the years?

Question:

I left South Africa in 2001 and had a motorbike licence and a motor car licence.

I converted my motor car licence abroad but unfortunately at that time did not convert my motor bike licence.

Is there anyway that I can get a letter stating what the old codes where and what they have been converted to.

I used to ride a bike over 125cc.

Answer:

The current licence code for the size of motor vehicle referred hereto is A1, in terms of the old code, the table attached indicates which code is applicable depending on when the licence was issued.

Regards,

Clancinah Baloyi

How has the licence codes for motorbikes changed over the years?